Rocky Linux 10.1 and Desktop Environments

Well I’m BAAACK!! I am in the throws of Experimenting with Rocky Linux (now) 10.1. Right now ONLY as a VM. As people on this forum well know I am strictly a KDE person, so I – at first downloaded the Rocky Linux 10.0 KDE Live version to “kick the tires”. The “Tire Kicking” goes on and I – at first – downloaded RL 10.1 KDE Live but but got hung up, but then downloaded RL 10.1 straight and tried to install KDE. That blew up, so I reinstalled RL 10.1 KDE Live and then with some help from my buddy did an install with CUSTOM PARTITIONS (!) and it is running SUPER!! On with the Tire Kicking! I am installing my normal setup so the first thing I did after installing mc was to start to install alternate Desktop Environments…. and I am running into some problems, Since this is setup to run KDE the first Alternate DE I installed was GNOME… That installed without to much problem, but then I tried to install Xfce, and ran into problems. I have tried:

dnf groupinstall “Xfce” as well as “Xfce Desktop Environment” . No Go. I tried doing:

dnf install Xfce and xfce. No Go. I tried dnf install xfce4 again No. Go. And before someone asks in installed epel. (dnf install epel-release). So…

Tried to install another common Desktop Environment: MATE No Go there either Again epel is already enabled. Supposedly Xfce should be installed, but it isn’t. Which brings up another problem I am having: Supposedly when you log in and you have multiple DE’s there was a cog (gear, etc) which you clicked to choose which allowed you choose which DE you wanted. Trust me., being to choose some other than KDE has bailed me out more than once, now the little cog (gear, etc) is missing. There is no way to choose GNOME which I KNOW is installed but there is no way for me to select it if I want to kick the tires of GNOME.

OK before some says something about using group list (or grouplist) and that neither Xfce, or MATE are listed in it, but GNOME most certainly is which is how I installed it. It still does not tell me how to switch from one DE to another – an easy feat in RL 9.7, or to install something other than GOME – like MATE or Xfce, to say nothing of Cinnamon, or any of the other DE’s.

Again I installed Rocky Linux 10.1 KDE Live and that is what sitting on my VIRTUAL DISK DRIVE.

What do you have in /usr/share/wayland-sessions/ ?

What there could be:
dnf provides /usr/share/wayland-sessions/\*.desktop


The only DE included in RHEL (and hence RL) is GNOME.
The usual third-party place to find third-party content is EPEL.

Therefore, you have to send EPEL a request to build more DEs for el10.


el10 does not have XOrg. The DEs have to support Wayland. Nobody can build a DE for el10 before its developers make the DE to run with Wayland – if ever.


Since you do know that no repo used by your system defines group “MATE”, you do already know that command dnf group install MATE cannot possibly succeed.

See this link here for a copr repository providing the Mate Desktop with a minimal Xorg.
Mate Desktop For RL10
It works for me in a VM.

Here is what I have in /usr/share/wayland-sessions:

gnome-wayland.desktop

gnome.desktop

plasma.desktop

So in THEORY when I sign in / login there SHOULD BE some sort of cog or gear that would allow me to switch between my DE. I SHOULD BE able to switch between KDE and GNOME at the very least. And I did install EPEL so that can not be it. The only thing I can think of is that I installed RL KDE 10.1 LIVE version and not the the the hardcore RL 10.1 version, but would be kind of silly. I still need to figure out HOW to switch between KDE and GNOME at the login. GNOME is installed!

OK I KNEW I had installed GNOME. I was looking for a small cog or gear under where I would type my Password. WELL.. I FOUND where you you would change session. For reasons unknown someone decided to MOVE it to THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER where in a really tiny font you see: DESKTOP SESSION. You will now see what Desktop Environments are available to you I have three: GNOME.WAYLAND; GNOME; or Plasma. There is a Catch 22 here: IF you ONLY have 1 DE you will NOT see the DE as it will DEFAULT to the the 1 DE that is installed. (My Buddy and I tried it. With KDE being the DEFAULT, he DID NOT SEE the DESKTOP SESSION message, but the second he installed GNOME the DESKTOP SESSION popped up. Again, it is in the LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER and it is really tiny lettering so you might not see it at first. OK onto the next challenge: Installing Xfce, or MATE…. But at least I have GNOME besides KDE Plasma

Note that neither EPEL 8 nor 9 defines a group for MATE, even though the packages are there. EPEL 7 did have group (and environment group) repo metadata for MATE too. It is thus unlikely that EPEL 10 would define a group, if MATE packages get added to it.

(DNF) Groups are mere convenience lists of packages.