Installing RL 9.4 on Dell Inspiron P70F with 4K screen and external dock 36M9K

I have successfully installed RL 9.4 on the above laptop. However, I have two issues and one gripe:

  • The boot info font size is minuscule on this 4K monitor. It does not seem possible to change it in BIOS but I hope I can change one of the boot parameters in RL to make it readable? Where/how would I do that?
  • I understand Dell has drivers for the above dock for Ubuntu but where can I find drivers for RL? I understand I may need a driver for some functionality of the deck, eg. external monitors.
  • I installed Mate per the instructions on the website (see MATE Desktop - Documentation) which contains several steps among them “sudo dnf install NetworkManager-adsl NetworkManager-bluetooth NetworkManager-libreswan-gnome NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome NetworkManager-ovs NetworkManager-ppp NetworkManager-team NetworkManager-wifi NetworkManager-wwan adwaita-gtk2-theme alsa-plugins-pulseaudio atril atril-caja atril-thumbnailer caja caja-actions caja-image-converter caja-open-terminal caja-sendto caja-wallpaper caja-xattr-tags dconf-editor engrampa eom firewall-config gnome-disk-utility gnome-epub-thumbnailer gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free gtk2-engines gucharmap gvfs-fuse gvfs-gphoto2 gvfs-mtp gvfs-smb initial-setup-gui libmatekbd libmatemixer libmateweather libsecret lm_sensors marco mate-applets mate-backgrounds mate-calc mate-control-center mate-desktop mate-dictionary mate-disk-usage-analyzer mate-icon-theme mate-media mate-menus mate-menus-preferences-category-menu mate-notification-daemon mate-panel mate-polkit mate-power-manager mate-screensaver mate-screenshot mate-search-tool mate-session-manager mate-settings-daemon mate-system-log mate-system-monitor mate-terminal mate-themes mate-user-admin mate-user-guide mozo network-manager-applet nm-connection-editor p7zip p7zip-plugins pluma seahorse seahorse-caja xdg-user-dirs-gtk”. I had to get the above command line correct in minuscule font size on my 4K monitor… May I ask why there is not simply an installation profile for Mate such as. eg. yum install mate?

There was a negative reaction to Gnome 3 (default session), but the Mate screenshots look almost identical to Rocky 9.4 Gnome 40 (classic session).

Your reply did not address my questions, nor my gripe…

OK, I was questioning why Mate is needed at all.

If it is needed, I think I know the answer to

I’d say it’s because Mate desktop is not in the official Rocky repos, so any dnf command would need to pull in packages that are unsupported.

It would be great if one of the package maintainers could chime in.


As far as I can see, it would be enough to do:

dnf install mate-desktop

but it probably doesn’t pull in all dependencies that it requires, that is why the Rocky documentation specifies what extra to install.

Well, you will probably be waiting for a long time, since Mate is not managed or maintained by Rocky. It’s in the EPEL repositories, which means you would have to ask them why they don’t make an option like dnf group install mate-desktop like they do with for example KDE. Nobody here can answer that question for you. It’s not a Rocky project.

I wanted to install the Mate desktop after doing a minimal RL installation, ie. not having any desktop, so I followed the excruciating instructions on the webpage I mentioned earlier…

Why excrutiating? Because you had a lot to type and it was too much effort for you? You should be happy that easy documentation was there to follow in the first place.

As mentioned, we don’t maintain Mate, so if you want to complain about it, go and complain to the people who maintain it. Or perhaps if you don’t like it, maybe you can offer your time and effort to develop and make things better and easier?

Very easy to complain about something when you haven’t bothered to help do anything yourself. People here give up their own time to make this project possible, including helping out on the forums, and so far all you seem to be is completely ungrateful because the documentation, or the Mate project doesn’t have an easy command to install it for you.

On a clean install, ensure “epel” is enabled first.

Is there a reason you are turning this into a personal attack?

Not a personal attack. Based on the facts of what you have posted here so far. There isn’t anything wrong with the documentation, yet for you it is supposedly excrutiating. I expect your complaint is as I said, because you had to type too much, and expected a short command to install it.

It was explained that we don’t manage or maintain EPEL, and yet you seemed to ignore that. The documentation is written by what is provided, therefore if EPEL do not give a single command that installs all the packages required for Mate, then the documentation includes all of the packages required. And as I said, you should be happy that such concise and complete documentation exists. However, it seems you are not.

So, not a personal attack, an observation based on what you write here and how you reply to people with your attitude.