# RL9.6\_update and NVIDIA nvidia-570.172.08 no wayland **URL:** \ **Category:** Rocky Linux Help & Support\ **Created:** [August 12, 2025, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387 "2025-08-12T05:07:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tqhoang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forums.rockylinux.org/tqhoang/32/4643_2.png) [@tqhoang](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/tqhoang)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/21 "2025-09-03T19:56:52Z")
We got a report that our 580.76.05 packages were crashing X11 for an end-user with a large number of systems. We pulled it and rebased to 570.181 and were able to pinpoint the problem. I’m in the process of patching all of our NVIDIA packages. Expect in the next few days to see: - 570.181 released to main repo (EL8 and EL9) - 580.82.07 pushed to testing repo (EL8, EL9, EL10) ---
**Author:** ![sergmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sergmx](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/sergmx)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/22 "2025-09-04T03:32:56Z")
Thank you very much. Last time you made driver 580.76.05, I have been using it without problems for almost a month. True, I have Wayland and Gnome40. ---
**Author:** ![sergmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sergmx](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/sergmx)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/23 "2025-09-05T04:05:04Z")
I changed my 580.76.05 to 580.82.07 and it works as usual (I have Wayland). During the update I got: egl-wayland and there was a failure: nvidia-persisteneed.service Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![tqhoang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forums.rockylinux.org/tqhoang/32/4643_2.png) [@tqhoang](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/tqhoang)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/24 "2025-09-05T14:19:20Z")
Thanks for the update. I had to revert the bundling of the newer NVIDIA egl-wayland because: - EL8 - it was crashing apps (notably Firefox) - EL9 - reverted to be on the safe side As for the nvidia-persistenced service error, the updated service is probably being restarted before the updated driver is running. After a reboot is the service is running ok? systemctl status nvidia-persistenced ---
**Author:** ![Jenns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Jenns](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/Jenns)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/25 "2025-09-06T16:22:18Z")
I installed the .run for version 580.82.07, and to make it work with wayland I added this to my grub config modprobe.blacklist=nouveau,nova\_core nvidia\_drm.modeset=1 I’m on rl10 but I believe it should work in rl9. give it a try and let me know. I find the .run performs better in general. ---
**Author:** ![sergmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sergmx](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/sergmx)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/26 "2025-09-08T03:32:13Z")
> [@tqhoang](#): > > systemctl status nvidia-persistenced Ok. All works. nvidia-persistenced.service - NVIDIA Persistence Daemon Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/nvidia-persistenced.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Mon 2025-09-08 07:19:10 +04; 10min ago Process: 1023 ExecStart=/usr/bin/nvidia-persistenced --user root (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) ---
**Author:** ![tqhoang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forums.rockylinux.org/tqhoang/32/4643_2.png) [@tqhoang](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/tqhoang)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/27 "2025-09-08T14:45:11Z")
FYI we have RPM’s for EL10 in elrepo-testing repo for now. I’ve been monitoring the NVIDIA forum for 580 driver feedback. Still lots of problems reported by gamers, so I don’t want to introduce that to large-scale production environments. ---
**Author:** ![sergmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sergmx](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/sergmx)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/28 "2025-09-19T07:49:59Z")
sorry. nothing provides kernel \>= 5.14.0-570.42.2.el9\_6 needed by kmod-nvidia-580.82.09-1.1.el9\_6.elrepo.x86\_64 uname -r: 5.14.0-570.39.1.el9\_6.x86\_64 ---
**Author:** ![iwalker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forums.rockylinux.org/iwalker/32/2599_2.png) [@iwalker](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/iwalker)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/29 "2025-09-19T07:53:18Z")
> [@sergmx](#): > > nothing provides kernel \>= 5.14.0-570.42.2.el9\_6 needed by kmod-nvidia-580.82.09-1.1.el9\_6.elrepo.x86\_64 You will have to wait until that package is released by the Rocky team since that kernel hasn’t appeared yet. Should be soon. ---
**Author:** ![sergmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sergmx](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/sergmx)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/30 "2025-09-19T07:55:44Z")
Yes, I understand. This driver is from the el-repo testing branch, and I wanted to test it on the current kernel. * * * rpm -qa | grep nvidia nvidia-x11-drv-libs-580.82.07-1.el9\_6.elrepo.x86\_64 kmod-nvidia-580.82.07-1.1.el9\_6.elrepo.x86\_64 nvidia-x11-drv-580.82.07-1.el9\_6.elrepo.x86\_64 ---
**Author:** ![iwalker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forums.rockylinux.org/iwalker/32/2599_2.png) [@iwalker](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/iwalker)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/31 "2025-09-19T08:04:32Z")
It looks like from the info from DNF that the module is only allowed to work on 5.14.0-570.42.2.el9\_6 and higher. So doesn’t look like the kmod will work against earlier kernels. You probably will have to contact and ask elrepo about it, if they will build for earlier kernels or not. ---
**Author:** ![jlehtone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9a140/32.png) [@jlehtone](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/jlehtone)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/32 "2025-09-19T08:13:13Z")
ELRepo tends to build modules with “kABI-something”, that is a module that _should_ work with every 5.14.0-570\*.el9\_6 kernel. Previous build (of same module) was for 5.14.0-503\*.el9\_5 kernel, and next build for 5.14.0-???\*.el9\_7 kernels (if the version of driver is still built for el9\_7). A more strict kernel version dependency could be … @tqhoang should be able to explain why. ---
**Author:** ![iwalker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forums.rockylinux.org/iwalker/32/2599_2.png) [@iwalker](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/iwalker)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/33 "2025-09-19T09:19:58Z")
> [@jlehtone](#): > > A more strict kernel version dependency could be … @tqhoang should be able to explain why. > [@tqhoang](#): > > I’ve been monitoring the NVIDIA forum for 580 driver feedback. Still lots of problems reported by gamers, so I don’t want to introduce that to large-scale production environments. Could be restricted at the minute due to that maybe? ---
**Author:** ![sergmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sergmx](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/sergmx)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/34 "2025-09-19T09:49:35Z")
I thought it was because it was only in elrepo-testing. I installed the previous driver from there. ---
**Author:** ![iwalker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forums.rockylinux.org/iwalker/32/2599_2.png) [@iwalker](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/iwalker)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/35 "2025-09-19T10:02:15Z")
Probably the reason it’s still in testing is because it’s not stable yet, and so in terms of being able to use it, limited into the kernel it’s being built for. No real sense building it for every kernel, when it’s unstable. Build for one, when stability improves, then build for all kernels. Less work and effort required. ---
**Author:** ![sergmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sergmx](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/sergmx)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/36 "2025-09-19T16:59:26Z")
My other computer has Fedora 42 and rpm-fusion drivers installed. It just updated to 580.82.09, and it’s started acting weird. It’s no longer smooth in Wayland, and the NVIDIA settings are showing some weird behavior. Before that, I had 580.82.07 drivers, and everything was fine. ![Снимок экрана от 2025-09-19 20-59-53](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/rockylinux/original/2X/d/d41117fe9e35028faabc880723dfe28e343eda3e.png) ---
**Author:** ![tqhoang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forums.rockylinux.org/tqhoang/32/4643_2.png) [@tqhoang](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/tqhoang)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/37 "2025-09-20T12:22:03Z")
Rocky 9 seems to be fairly delayed with that kernel for some reason. You can see that it was built back on 9/16 and was supposed to be published. > **[Rocky Linux Incoming](https://incoming.releng.rockylinux.org/)** I had already been running that kernel under RHEL 9 and the “other” EL9 had also published it on 9/15. For the interim, you’ll have to boot to the previous kernel (-570.37.1.el9\_6 ???). Hopefully it’ll all resolve itself in a few days. ---
**Author:** ![sergmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sergmx](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/sergmx)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/38 "2025-09-20T13:13:20Z")
I’ll wait for the new kernel and hope this driver on RL9 won’t work as badly as on F42. P.S. I’m a bit confused. Yesterday I turned off my computer with F42, and now I’ve noticed everything is working fine. I don’t understand anything anymore, and the picture is fine. I rebooted the computer twice yesterday. How is this possible? ---
**Author:** ![tqhoang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forums.rockylinux.org/tqhoang/32/4643_2.png) [@tqhoang](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/tqhoang)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/39 "2025-09-22T21:22:25Z")
I haven’t seen where the nvidia-settings is bugged like that under RHEL 9, but I do notice issues with monitor detection after I’m away for a while (using a KVM). Sometimes toggling to a console (CTRL+ALT+F2…) and back to terminal one (CTRL+ALT+F1) helps. Also I noticed that the updated Rocky 9 kernel is finally available. ---
**Author:** ![sergmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sergmx](https://forums.rockylinux.org/u/sergmx)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387/40 "2025-09-24T04:00:42Z")
Yes, the kernel arrived. I decided to test it. 1. Disabled EL-Repo-Test. 2. Programs and the kernel were updated, not Nvidia. 3. Rebooted. 4. Wayland didn’t start. 5. Switched to console, A+F2, enabled EL-Repo-Test, and updated Nvidia. (During the update, it complained about a kernel module—I have a photo if needed.) 6. Rebooted the computer. 7. Everything works. THANKS. I don’t even want to think about how that 570 driver (not a test) updated to the new kernel 😉 [Previous page](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rl9-6-update-and-nvidia-nvidia-570-172-08-no-wayland/19387.md?page=3)